To find out the meaning of Fogblow, go to http://www.birthersummit.org/fogblow.html. The meaning, laid out in 4 points of hilarious, conspiracy-theory paranoia, is schoolyard silliness; akin to taking the ball home because your game sucks. The birthers have entertained me for a couple of years. Especially Dr. Orly Taitz; whose crazy can be caught at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/. Her meandering ramblings are great. I had the pleasure of a comment being posted on her site. The following is the responses to my response. I will write another post about these fun people; I think it is fascinating to see belief in a conspiracy involving millions of people, just so one guy can be President ( for 4 years.)
My original response:
There is no fraud. Why do you jump from gotcha moment to gotcha moment? What happened to the 9th Circuit case? When will it be ruled on? What was the result of your case dealing with the fraud committed against in the Secretary of State election? What happened in the eligibility bills being pushed through in certain states? How long will it take for your followers to realize that you aim for new windmills before you tell them the truth about what happened to the old ones? You seem to have a long reach for conspiracy and a short grasp of reality. posted to Orly Taitz website August 10th 6:49 local time California I assume.
Responses.
1. @Bob:
Please go crawl back up Nobama’s a** where you belong. How much is Soros/Axelrod paying you to harass non-supporters of this regime? I hope it’s worth it as when all of this is exposed, and it will be eventually, you will be exposed for the fraud you are as well. stormyweather.
2. Bob
How long before the fog in your brain clears?
How long will it take before this finally gets to a Judge with integrity?
What happened to following the Constitution? (Don’t bother, we already know what you Socialists do with the Constitution. It has something to do browning off anther section today).
How long will it take for LaLaLand Liberals like yourself to realize that EVERY major event that has happened in America, started off as a “tilting at windmills” cause?
What has been the result of the Marxist Radical Boy King’s policies. Downgrade of our Credit Rating, THREE New wars over and beyond Afghan and Iraq, as of this morning, 15 Trillion in debt, 6 trillion more than Bush, etc, etc, etc.
You seem to have a closed mind and a short memory. Added to ZERO grasp on reality. RoBoTech
3.Bob…
Your post contained not one word, never mind not one fact/truth, refuting the fraud. You appear to have a big mouth and no facts/truths. RacerJim
August 10th, 2011 @ 9:23 am
4.Orly you had a chance of being on National TV and you didn’t mention that Obama is using a social security number? This birth certificate deal, although you have a case, in people’s minds it is a done deal. Most people were convinced by the forgery Obama showed. Now, if you tell the people that Obama is using a stolen social security number and any investigator can prove it, that’s something right there. If you say something like “Oh my God, the United States is in trouble. Obama is using a stolen social security number. Please help me bring this fraudster to justice”, that’s something more believable and will get people fired up
5.This local news story seems fairly objective, I am amazed Fox News aired it. They usally go out of their way to bash and discredit birthers. Too bad it was only a local story.
Isn’t it odd that when Obama released his alleged Long Form Birth Certificate on April 27th it became a National Story, but when Orly Taitz brought a subpoena and a couple of experts to forensically examine the alleged birth certificate the Main Stream Media all turn a blind eye, and did not seem interested in reporting that the HI Dept of Health refused to comply with the subpoena?
How much more obvious can it be that they are hiding something?
6.Thayne Doak
August 10th, 2011 @ 9:43 am
Bob,
It’s not often that you come across someone who is truly delusional… meet Bob everyone. Bob, you seem to have difficulty distinguishing between fantasy and reality. What part of this is giving you the most trouble? Is it a “President” who orchestrates a kangaroo court with the help of now Maj. Gen. Horst and his lackey Col. Denise Lindt denying a decorated flight surgeon Lt. Col. Lakin a basic defense, simply because he wanted to see Soetoro aka Obama’s BC, and subsequently being railroaded into a guilty plea and sent to Leavenworth for 6 months? Or is it the fact that the “President” then PRODUCED the very “document” Lakin requested, only to have that document discredited as a forgery by numerous computer and document experts? What experts have put their stamp of authenticity and approval to the forgery released on the White House official website on April 27th? Crickets chirping… Listen Bob, I know that this must be difficult for you and the others rabid OBOTS who troll this site night and day attacking American citizens looking for answers, but I really don’t care about your feelings or those of your misguided ilk…I care more about the rule of law and the sovereignty of our Constitutional Republic. Remember that Bob? This is NOT a Socialist workers paradise…never will be. Sorry.
But hey, don’t stop chasing those collectivist dreams of your Bob…it makes for great entertainment for all of us down here on Earth.
Thayne Doak
7.Tom
August 10th, 2011 @ 9:58 am
Dear, dear Bob, it appears you wouldn’t know reality if you had your hand in a bucket of it….maybe if you got your head our of the sand or some other dark place you could start looking at FACTS. Facts, in each of the cases you state, haven’t changed a bit, but aliegence does change and sad to say it has changed from the Constitution to a person. Thank God for the tenacity of Orly that she will find at least one judge who still has his priorities well established that this corrupt regime will not be able to get to him and will do the right thing for this country and according to the “rule of law” will decide on the facts of the case.
What I find it hard to understand with you people is if Orly is so wrong in what she is saying wouldn’t the production of the paperwork she is requesting shut her up? Seems to me this would be your goal: produce and shut her up! But, NO! All you can do is condem without any facts to back up your contensions!! Pretty weak case you present: which is either the case of a simple minded or minded simply to distort.
Tom Arnold
August 10th, 2011 @ 1:03 pm
8.So, “Bob,” what does a FORGED birth certificate and a STOLEN social security number mean to you?
9.Remember, Dear Orly! Keep your experts nearby you at all times when in Hawaii.
That state is OBOT CENTRAL. They will try to bribe your experts, seduce them, get them drunk, or whatever it takes.
They want to discredit you. How better to do it than to blackmail your experts into doing or saying something ridiculous? Your experts might be more vulnerable than you know.
Don’t let them out of your sight!!! The Obots will try anything to get at them: money, girls, boys, strong drink, reefer, anything.
If your experts are covertly ‘turned’ by the Obots, your case will be doomed. The fix will be in. Be careful Dear Orly!!!!
10.Kaz
August 10th, 2011 @ 1:53 pm
Bobby: FOGBLOW!
11.Florence Stone
August 10th, 2011 @ 5:45 pm
Bob, what happened to your ability to determine the difference between honesty and deceit? What happened to your ability to come to a conclusion based on facts? I hope you are never on a jury; a defendant deserves to have jurors with a functioning brain.
Obots,socalists,commies and other fools. The legal precident is set, the law of the land is written in Supreme Court Case Minor v Haberstat, USC 162, 1875. Look in the legal directory not the edited version on line. You will find that a Natural Born Citizen is born of Parent’s that are citizens. The courts fear a black back lash if they rule on the truth. The forces of rightious indignation over the failure of our elected officials to uphold their oath to uphold the constitution is at a precarious juncture,the voices of We The People will soon rise in unison to a volume that even the most corrupt among them will tremble in fear. We The People, will restore the constitution. The corrupt will receive their just reward.
12. (email address from dr taitz, i assume. written over because i don’t want to provide a link)
August 10th, 2011 @ 7:41 pm
I provided this information, they will air the rest of the interview later. Reporter stated, that he is planning to be in court
This is my response, which I did see posted today. Again, this is only the 2nd time I have been allowed to post on this site.I do not follow this story to belittle people or try to show superiority in any way. I have a problem with people who remain willfully ignorant.
13.To the group:
Not an Obama supporter. Not delusional. Not a troll paid by Soros ( really, talk about delusional). Just a veteran confused by the obfuscation performed by the creator of this site. Here are the facts. The President was born in Hawaii. There is no mention of Vattel in any Supreme Court ruling. The 14th amendment states the qualification for natural born citizen. In America, it is innocent until proven guilty; yet you people seem to expect the president to prove his innocence to you. I am curious to know how a person’s Selective Service Card could be obtained by a third party with the SSN intact. Usually such sensitive information would be redacted. The onus is on you to prove his guilt.The current state of affairs shows that he is innocent.Birthers can not prove his guilt, after 3 years and lots of trying( whatever happened to the Kenyan B.C?). Conspiracy is easy. Relativity is easy. If I am wrong, I would be happy to apologize. Can anyone attacking my character on the basis of my opinion make the same pledge?
Response Day 2.
MICHAEL
August 11th, 2011 @ 12:27 pm
Bob oh Bob oh Bob!!!
Why don’t you read the 14th Amendment before claiming things it does not say?
“The 14th amendment states the qualification for natural born citizen.”
Where do you find that in the Amendment?
Maybe for a Citizen…..but not a “natural born citizen.
Bob
Your comment is awaiting moderation. [still awaiting moderation 13 August 7:07]
August 11th, 2011 @ 6:22 pm
Micheal:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Obama was born in Hawaii, The 50th state. He is a natural born citizen of the U.S.
How clear do you want me to make it?
The Constitution does not define the term natural born citizen. Check the Supreme Court decisions that deal with this issue. Wong 1899
**** My last post is still being reviewed at this time, but the post from Tom is on the site. The article itself has been moved to the bottom of the webpage of the worst designed site I have ever seen.
Tom
August 11th, 2011 @ 11:02 pm
Re: The 14th Amendment the terminology/concept ’subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ means (born) “NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANYONE ELSE. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS”
Bob
Your comment is awaiting moderation. Accepted as a comment on August 12th
August 12th, 2011 @ 4:03 am
Tom:
Name one Supreme Court decision that gives that interpretation for the 14th. Seriously, do some research. Check the cases that deal with the 14th. There is a reason no court has ever ruled in the favor of the birthers. There is no legal precedent. Minor v Haberstat 1875 does not exclude U.S citizens born of one foreign parent. It is great that you want to interpret the Constitution to suit your own bias, but it is not based in real law. The courts rule against the birthers because you have no proof.
I doubt this will be posted because it is your group that is scared of the truth. Prove me wrong.
CH
August 11th, 2011 @ 6:18 pm
You are innocent until proven guilty. And you are not hired until proven eligible. We do not have to prove Obama is eligible, he does. He has, in fact, declared himself ineligible. He claims to have a foreign father, which disqualifies him, and he knoes it, the democratic party knows it, Soros knows it and Hawaii knows it. If a citizen sees somebody committing a felony, it is their obligation to report it, otherwise their silence makes them complicit. Do you have a problem, Bob, with people reporting a crime? Obama has been found to be using social security numbers not issued to him by two licensed investigators who stand by what they have found and are willing to enter a court and make their case. Obama is not courageous enough to stand up for himself in a court, because he knows he would walk out not the president. He has only one choice, to keep dancing around the court issues and stay out of court. Why would you support anybody doing that, Bob? Why would you not want licensed investigators discovering fraud to be able to prosecute in a court of law. Yes, you are innocent until proven guilty, and that is why innocent and guilty people are brought into court and given a chance to defend themselves. Do you not believe in the American court system, Bob? You figure felonious behavior is okay and should not be stopped? Evidently.
Laura
August 11th, 2011 @ 6:29 pm
Michael oh Michael..maybe you should read it, as you havent or don’t understand it
Bob
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
August 12th, 2011 @ 2:02 pm
CH:
Please point out where having a foreign father excludes a person from the office of the President. Please explain the felony being committed. The President has not been found to be using a fraudulent SSN. Some people with an agenda claim he is using such a card. If there was any merit to the case, it would have been heard already. I have been very patient in these posts, and I am still waiting for the proof of the claims put forth by the birther community. I am also waiting for a post I wrote in response to Michael to be accepted. I am very impressed with the moderator courage in letting some truth shine here. Like I have previously states; If I am wrong, I will apologize. So far, all I have seen is rumor and innuendo. The President has won in every court case without having to appear. I guess my primary question is: how big is this conspiracy? Also, can it be proven?
And that is the end.
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